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Ep 41 – Come As You Are Part 1

I don’t want these. You can have them. I don’t. He doesn’t want them now I don’t want to mess up.

No, you’re not messing anything up ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to begin this entire episode by starting with nursery rhyme.

Welcome to Two you’ll die trying. You’re trying to make a nursery rhyme. Nathan go.

Once upon a time, there was this man who had this really long beard and a voice of an angelic lumberjack. That’s not a good nursery.

Do you know Nursery Rhymes are scary to me. Pick pick one. Pick an usher and Little Bo Peep. Okay,

keep going. lost her sheep.

Yeah, okay, sad.

And didn’t know where to find them.

Then what happened?

Something about And Jill came tumbling after.

And then No,

Jack. Oh, Jack and Jill ran up the hill to

Jack fell down and broke his crown and Jill’s date and some dude from LA. See that’s. That is sad. What about the guy who was snoring and he hit his head and went to bed and never got up in the morning like Hello, old man. Yeah, that right there. That voice? Huh? That’s Brent lane. That is brilliant. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Brent lane. Reverse. That was not me. That was me. We are so honored. And I mean, it humbled and honored that we have Brent lane of Nashville, Tennessee in the studio. Hello, Brad.

I’m happy to be here.

Can you silence my phone later today to be in Owensboro?

Oh, gosh, this is our producer, our guru, our friend. And he’s my personal beard. Representative kiss because he has one and this doesn’t qualify what I had doesn’t qualify.

Brad, it’s neat to see you across from us instead of like, you know, FaceTime DEF CON five,

you know, troubleshooting? DEFCON five really is the good one. They

paint the picture and then Brent can explain it from his angle. So I’m an idiot. I’m not I am. I’m an idiot. We’ll record the episodes. And then Dr. Carroll is, you know, maybe pressed for time is scenario from the light latest one is the scenario I’ll paint the picture for Dr. Girl is trying to leave and we’re like rushing to get it so we can get it out to you all. And I don’t know what the heck I’m doing splice messes up, splices, the program in which Brent is able to receive the files to then therefore produce the files so that we can have a nice sounding quality product. So there’s a lot of FaceTiming going on. How many times did I press FaceTime to you?

Three times while he was backing out of his driveway.

I don’t want to exaggerate. He says

let me let me pull back in for a second. It was ridiculous. And I have a terrible time of splice. But Brent’s super nice about it. So thank you for that. So how is it to receive the information or to constantly have to babysit me?

I don’t feel like I’m babysitting. I mean, although if I may

There we go. Listen to that voice. Milk.

Can let’s butter. Can I play the jingle for you real quick. Before we get into this too deep Sure. I’m babysitting. Hey, would you

would you queue it up?

Please? I will hang on a mind

I mean, thank you for that. That’s good stuff. Thank you. Do you know the listeners who talked to me? That’s always the first thing they say about the podcast is that they absolutely love the jingle. It’s an ear worm. Wow. Yeah, they won’t leave him alone.

Well, I had help. Well, Nathan

Britton I have always worked well together. conceptually. It’s like, Hey, I like the idea of making something like this and Brent with his brilliant musical minds like okay, I’ll do that. So incredible. It’s literally I wrote him a text that said something along the lines of I want to do something kind of Brady bunchy you know that 70 cent Ami. It’s like really just like, sticky and kind of goof like thinking you know, yeah, so I just started saying goofy lyrics and next thing I know Brent sins that beautiful thing over and we have a so good, it was good. It was so good. It’s so good.

So we should take this opportunity to interview our dear friend and producer Brent lane. Brent, tell us a little bit about yourself,

man. Well Wow, I didn’t I didn’t realize this was gonna be about me I would prepare to

this whole episode is about you. Oh, entire episode is about you. All right, so Okay,

well, I’m a musician, primarily and male and I do selfies selfie

just wave so it’s gonna be blurry there

Nathan Why don’t you

Brent is the man. I’m gonna Yeah, we’ll talk about brand let’s talk about Brandon brand is not one to toot his own horn No, he’s never ever ever ever he is the guy that it’s really weird because you’ve played in front of 1000s of people with a guitar, a lead guitarist, but you don’t like to be in, like be the center of attention. It’s kind of like this weird thing that anyway, he’s been a friend of mine for since 2002. They came and played a show. And I opened up for them that well, here in Owensboro. Kentucky. Yes.

What Who were you with and Brent?

I can’t tell you that.

Oh, thank you. Isn’t that fun? Everyone?

Should I should i?

We can go back man. Yeah, do you can talk about it. That’d be great. Yeah. You don’t want to

I just that name.

It was tough. It became the band. We started. I was 14

when I joined the band. We were I was in middle school. And so we named the band as middle schoolers would course it was called Fat chance. Sure, but it was spelled with a pH.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was one T or two.

Just one. Okay, so I guess that’s a little bit better. It’s

very conservative.

Very modest. But I was playing with a band called pet chance. And were was it a pool?

It was a pool party at the late splash Swim Club. There’s a big grass area of 54 off highway 54. God rest it’s so

like you were saying we were playing for 1000s of people at a time.

Not that show though. That show was definitely not 1000s of people but the their bus. It was a renegade. There’s white pulls up behind the stage. And Brian Nance our friend is you know, he’s my personality. So he’s laying out on the top of the you know, whatever the bus and and Britain tanning tanning as you do, as you do. And then Dallas, of course, likes film. So Dallas and I are talking about film and Britain I have absolutely nothing in common. And then there’s a another member named Justin Morgan, who we you know, he can talk about anything books related or whatever. But in in 2002, Dallas wants to make that movie that short film. So I go to North Carolina, they kind of inherited me like I just was the the virus that wouldn’t go away. And then over time, Brett is recording, you know, developing his craft. And you were demoing for the stereo motion record, huh? Yeah. And then slowly but surely we were. You know, we recorded you were recording vocals in the convent. Remember? Yeah. mattresses.

I mean, that is like such a common. I think everyone can really relate

to that. We were just talking about that the other day. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember the song we did?

That’s because today, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So the only instrument. This is really cool. was a broken TV that we found in the convent. Wow. And when you turn it on, it just hummed. Really tone. Yeah. And so I think Justin wrote, The I don’t know, I don’t want to give credit where I think he made Ross and Eric’s and Brian created the melody and create a melody over top of this so that it’s brilliant. The underlying root route note never changes. The whole song, the melody, just like a drone. Yeah,

that’s very cool. Yeah.

That’s awesome. Well, in a 30,000 foot view, Brent and myself have been friends for a very long time, he produced the first ever project leaving Duralee, which was nominated for independent releases of the year next to Hanson and Taylor Swift. So that’s pretty legit. And

I would never say that. I wouldn’t say that. Well, that’s why you have to say yeah, for me,

so yeah, brain Athan has no problems. No, I don’t know that. I’m tuning you. I’m proud to toot your horn. Because I mean, that didn’t sound good because of me.

I mean, brandwood Yeah,

of course it did. No, Brent. This is really cool. Brentwood sin. We were. Do you remember whenever we were recording the songs for a gentleman’s closure? We were redoing stuff and you literally sent me home. Remember, you wouldn’t let me you’re like you’re You don’t sound good. That was hard. And I said we can. No I said, I said we can we can settle like this sounds good. And we can auto tune and he said, I don’t want to rely on auto tune. Like he literally was like you’re not you’re not doing this.

I still would like to do it. Tire episode in auto tune.

That would be really interesting. Yeah,

we could do that we yeah, we could.

But anyway, Britain, I’ve been good friends for a very long time. He can fix anything, do anything and we have this awesome setup and sound because of Brett.

Totally honor you Brent and your craft and what you’ve done for us. Thank you so very much. I enjoy it. Tell us from your perspective. Well, first of all about you. What is it that you love about your life?

Mm hmm. Wow, we’re going deep here.

But you go deep all the

time, man. Yeah, you’re like, you live down there?

I do. But this is only like a 30 minute episode. So now we’ll go longer.

We’re about eight minutes. And so you’re good to go? Yeah.

What do I love about my life? I guess it’s interesting. It’s, it’s not mundane. And but with that, it comes with ups and downs. You know, with, I guess with risk or with with potential reward, you get the Yeah, equal risk. Yeah. comes with it. And but I just I hate being bored. So I hate doing the same thing every day. Yes. So I love that my life is not the same thing every day.

Do you have a sense when you awaken every day? What that day needs to look like?

If Yeah, if if, if there is necessity for the day? I usually know it. Before that day comes sometimes. Sometimes there’s you know, it’s just wherever the day takes me in some days, I’ve got a whole list of things that they won’t all get done.

Yeah. Do you feel accomplished?

In general, yeah. No, no, because I’m always I’m always looking. Ahead gotcha. I want to be or where I’m trying to get so I don’t like having a sense of I’m good here.

Yeah, this is never arrive right? Always I guess so.

Is that considered contentment or complacency? Being

You know, I guess depending on how you look at it, cuz that’s

a tough thing. Right? That’s something I’ve always struggled with. Like it’s a balance I’m good here that’s contentment is contentment. Gross. I’ve always thought it

was gross. You know? I don’t think so. And I think you can be content in your pursuit of more, and I don’t mean more stuff, but more meaning more purpose more. You know, that when when work is what you love, then do it. And if you do it longer than some other people do it. Who cares? So you’ve got to work your own narrative out so being

like point C and you want to get to point D you’re content with the fact that you’re like progressing to get to point D you’re not going yeah, let’s be a point C

Yeah, like my your can like maybe Brent’s contentment not speak for you but maybe our contentment is that we are always searching always reaching stretching wanting what’s what’s just behind the curtain what’s just beyond the horizon just out of reach?

Yeah. What year was it Brent that you built the house your house?

Whoa, I bought the property the land and I was six and I started clearing it then. And I moved in and oh wait, you built

your house by hand? Yes. Oh my god.

I don’t like being bored a man ladies

and gentlemen picture me and then think of the polar opposite of me and that’s Brent lane. Yeah, like I can swing a hammer and hit a nail head that’s literally all I can do. Your clearing brush guys. He’s like

oh they’re not only they are digging footers pouring footers building

true story so I’ll never forget the the what’s it called? Is it’s what’s it called? The trust. The trust are coming in Brent’s up there like setting them like yes I was there because remember you were like hey can you deep who I know how to detail cars I was detailing member you had me detail your SUV and I’m over detailing the the air conditioning unit with like the Q tips and you’re you’re setting trust unbelievable for like a man me and Brent’s over here like a little tool belt on?

Yeah, just to paint the picture for that and you’ll see that Brent, Brent’s wearing a red and black plaid very lumberjack shirt with the sleeves up a quarter roll kind of a year. Roll. Yes got a black stocking cap and brown beard that goes down almost to his his belly button, I would say. And jeans and some black would look like maybe vans they are. And so we’ve got a guy and then we have Nathan who’s in a white shirt as always, because it’s only white with with a tie and, and a nice kind of mini check weave gray pant. And

I don’t end the socks,

socks or

sled. People slay sledding down the hill. The other day, I thought I ruined a white shirt. So we had this white shirt that was so happened to be sitting in with a wet red shirt, which made my white shirt pink. So I thought the trash can in the trash can our two used coffee filters with coffee grounds. And so my shirt is now pink and brown. And Megan’s like, Why did you throw that away? I could have gotten it out. And I was like, Ah, it’s done. So I came back anyway, she bleached the fire out of it and have a white shirt again. Nice. Anyways, white all the time.

Yeah. It’s amazing. So Brent, you

say you’re a happy person? Yeah. Good.

I would think so. Generally speaking, yeah. Yeah.

Is there a project that you can talk about that you’re working on right now?

Yeah, there’s this podcast. So

Okay, talk about it. Let’s talk about it. I said earlier, and this, this would be a great place to do it. I think because it’s, you know, full disclosure, I said earlier, I want to pick your brain, Brent, about how we can make our podcast better. And I said, you know, I want to ask you some questions. And he said, Sure. And I said, okay, one question is, how can we make our podcast better? So right? What if you, you just are you a podcast listener? In general? i Okay. I am. Yeah. Do you have a couple of favorites that you’re kind of go twos for you.

Joe Rogan? Yep.

The number one most listened to? Yeah, podcast in the universe, I guess. Yeah. And those are like, oftentimes two and a half hours long.

Yeah. Three, three hours is pretty common.

No one would listen to me do anything for three hours. It’s amazing.

Because when you get to the end of a three hour episode with Joe Rogan, and it doesn’t feel like it’s been three it’s amazing. And I think that says a lot about his ability. Yeah. I mean, it’s really just a conversation is it just a great it’s a recorded casseroles. Yeah, right plan. They

just sit down and it’s not scripted. He’s a really, really smart human being. Yeah. And he genuinely cares about people and He’s genuinely curious. Yeah,

I think that’s it.

I think that curiosity Yeah, I listened to Terry Gross talk about this once tear groceries, a famous fresh air interviewer from NPR. And I used to say that was national Presbyterian radio. Good, but it’s not funny anymore, because I’m not doing that. But anyway, she and she said that your your number one interviewing skill is nothing more than to be passionately and endlessly intellectually curious. And he is definitely that,

I think, the most creative or not creative, but I think just one thing to be is just present with anything really. Because natural presence just being present in the moment and not having your mind anywhere else. Yeah, paying attention paying attention is taking notice. It’s kind of admirable. And people want to listen to that. Because we’re in this world of just stuff everywhere. And in our ears all the time. For a moment. Just feel Yeah, yeah. Being a natural listeners kind of good. And being able to ask just general questions is, is nice. Yeah,

no, no agenda? No. Yeah. Just no script on with whatever what

happens? Yeah. And at first, I thought maybe people would tire of that. But I don’t think so I think especially people that like there are people who are taking a walk, there are people who are taking a drive, some people may have a commute to, you know, nearby towns and, and I don’t know, that they they are not necessarily interested in something structured, you know, there are those shows, where it’s a very structured, you know, seven steps to financial freedom kind of thing and then click on this in the show notes and will tilt will give you more information that that’s cool. Like that’s a that’s a platform, right? But that’s, that’s not who we are. It’s not what this is. And I think I felt bad about that for a while, like it needed more more structure, more systemic approach, but then I realized the dynamic, organic conversational nature of this, which is very real, and unscripted in the literal sense of that, and it’s, it’s okay,

I think that’s the allure of podcasts in general. From my perspective, the podcasts that I like, and the people that also like that those podcasts I feel like the the fact that there is no agenda that it feels more real than what you would see on television, and the reason for that is on television, you have time slots. You got 30 minutes?

Did you have to be struck? 23 minutes minus commercials, right? Yeah,

you don’t have a choice. So it’s it’s not it’s just a constraint at the platform really. But yeah, podcast you do whatever you want for as long as you want.

And anybody who likes it can check in and if they don’t, no big deal completely organic. Yeah, it’s not about rule not about ratings. It’s not about making sponsors happy. Yeah. Speaking of sponsors,